A USA TRAINS LGB MTS DECODER CONVERSION ARTICLE.

                           

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 This an article showing and explaining how I fitted an LGB MTS decoder into USA Trains loco. For this article I used a 20t " Mighty Joe " engine.

This system works just as well with larger twin motor block locos as well. Because of the amps these motors pull you will need one decoder per motor block. For better running add the two motor block track feeds together so that the decoders receive an input from both sets of track pickups. This will help over track frogs. But remember to keep the decoder out puts separate with each decoder only feeding one motor block.

As the picture will show this train has a motor block very similar to a LGB ‘D’ type motor block with four pins, two track pickup and two for the motor feed, and so I treated it in the same way when adding an LGB MTS chip.

 

 

To be able to remove the body the motor block runners need to be removed, this will also allow the motor to be released away from the body. The whole engine comes apart with the use of a crosshead screw driver.

 

 Once motor block and motor runners are removed then you can take out all the screws that hold the body in place, these include two under the rear coupling and two very small ones under the motor block itself which will save the lead weight inside being removed.

 

After gaining access to the inside of the body I then removed the switch box that the original wiring was connected to. The functions that these used to control will now be operated direct from the decoder outputs that will allow these functions to be operated from the LGB Remote handset.

 

After looking at what was left in the way of wiring after removing the switch assembly it was easier to remove all the internal wiring from the engine just leaving the two wires that lead from each light to enable me to connect these all directly to the decoder itself. I then rewired the loco using the wiring that comes attached to the decoder its self making things a lot easier than trying to patch two systems together.

The above picture shows the decoder in place and the wires running from decoder under the lead block straight to the motor underneath. The red and white wires are going straight from the decoder to the front light and the other wires are leftovers from a direct decoder fitment in an LGB loco to allow extra length on the wires so that the rear lights and cab light can reach the decoder.

Please check the lights on loco to see if they are fed via a 5volt resistor, this is normally shown by a small black square item with three connectors with 5v stamped on it in white, if this is this case then you will need to reprogram the decoder lighting output to 5v instead of the default 24v setting. This is fairly easy to do and the best place to look up the values you need to change is on the LGB website ( www.lgb.com ) you will need either the LGB MTS PC program module of the LGB MTS Universal Remote Handset No 55015. This only tends to be on the larger engines as the small ones all seem to be 24v.

There is always the option to change all the bulbs on the 5v engines with a pack of LGB 24v bulbs which i have done on many a loco as this gives a much nicer light that can be be seen better during the day.

If like this loco the bulbs are 24volt then wire straight to the decoder .

 

  

The lead weight has been removed here to show the wiring more clearly. The extended wires are now simply joined to the original wires that come direct from the lights and other accessories. In this model I have not yet got round to putting proper connections in yet, but there is plenty of room for some crimped terminals at a later stage I will probably use bullet connections so that the cab can still be removed at a later date.

 

As the next couple of pictures will show there is plenty of room for the decoder in the main body of the loco and little access routes for all wiring to be threaded through from and to the decoder.

 

On this model I have only wired up the front and rear lights and the cab light but there is no reason why all other powered items can not be connected direct to an LGB MTS decoder such as the smoke unit or if fitted a sound system, just be careful to check voltage requirements of these as this decoder give out 24volts which can be to much for some devices, although the decoder can have its voltage values changed as per the same procedure for the lighting outputs explained earlier on in this article.

 

One thing I did do on reassembling this train was to make sure that  the motor block and sprung bogie assembly was picking up a track feed and supplying  to the decoder correctly and this meant checking the red and black wires from the  motor and bogie assembly where correct and not going to cause a short by bridging the track feed.

 

 

 this train has now been running on my railway under LGB MTS control from about two years now with no signs of running problems or over heating and all the lights are fully functioning and light up dependant on train direction just like any  LGB MTS equipped Loco.

If you have questions or need more details then please feel free to email me at jason.gscalemad@ntlworld.com

 

Jason Palmer. 2005.